Back in 1999, I came in contact with a "prophet" who prophesied that all sorts of horrible stuff would happen to America if there wasn't a move of repentance between 1998 and 2008. At that time I was intrigued by him because, compared with other professing prophets I had encountered, he was specific and willing to give a timeline for his prophecies. Furthermore, he posted his prophecies on the web and seemed to build his ministry around them. I couldn't imagine why someone would do that unless they were confident they had heard from God. For that reason, I kept an open mind through 2008 even though I found much of the content in his messages offensive.
Recently, I was surprised to learn that this man still has a following almost four years after his prophecies for America failed to come true. Out of curiosity, I searched the web to see what others were saying about him. In my searching I found that many people were curious about him and had posted questions about his prophecies to various forums. Unfortunately, almost every response to those questions was disappointing. Either the responders to their questions didn't treat the question seriously or they gave Biblical arguments related to the role of prophets in the New Testament church. Anyone considering taking these prophecies seriously won't likely be swayed by any responses I've seen.
For those of you are open to the possibility that Jonathan Hansen is prophet speaking for God, you need to be aware that he has been inconsistent in the way he represents 1998 - 2008 time frame in his prophecy to America. Today he says that, "The dates 1998-2008 were a time of mercy and grace to give the warning and sound the alarm for people to repent or all will eventually come to pass." (http://www.worldministries.org/america.html) However, if you go back 5 or more years he said these prophecies were intended to be fulfilled in the period of time between 1998 and 2008. One clear example of this can be found 37 minutes into his radio interview with Daniel Ott given on 8/19/2006. A link to the mp3 file of that interview can be found here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20071215104223/http://theedgeam.com/interviews/Jonathan_Hansen_08.19.06_2nd.mp3
I'm reluctant call any man a liar because I know truth can be very nuanced. However, I think his direct contradiction with regard to the 1998 to 2008 timeframe proves that he is clearly lying. I don't see how this could be explained away. Let me know if you disagree.
I'm reluctant call any man a liar because I know truth can be very nuanced. However, I think his direct contradiction with regard to the 1998 to 2008 timeframe proves that he is clearly lying. I don't see how this could be explained away. Let me know if you disagree.
Additional Info:
- When researching guys like this who used static content on their websites, its useful to use the "waybackmachine" (http://wayback.archive.org/web/) to look up old versions of their site and see how the site changed over time.
- If you lookup the world ministries international site (www.worldministries.org and www.world-ministries.org) in the wayback machine you will notice that the 1998 - 2008 timeframe has only recently been framed as a period for delivering the warning.
- The link above is an archived version of the radio interview found by looking up the edge radio station (http://www.theedgeam.com) in the waybackmachine. At the time that interview was given the interview was saved to their site as an mp3 file. The only way this file can be accessed is to look at an old version of the site. Current versions of the site have that interview removed.
- One way to download this on a Mac is to use the this command to save it to your desktop:
curl http://web.archive.org/web/20071215104223/http://theedgeam.com/interviews/Jonathan_Hansen_08.19.06_2nd.mp3 >> ~/Desktop/Jonathan_Hansen_08.19.06_2nd.mp3
Doing this will allow you to go directly to the 37 minute mark in the file which may not be an option if listened to through your browser.
Peace be upon you (author of this blog) I come in His name (God and God alone, the Creator of all and Author of the last day) I shall give you this warning; a true prophet shall not know the hour in which a punishment nor a judgment shall come upon a people. In the Books (God's Holy Books) none has known, but has said that the hour rest with Him (God) alone. All through the scriptures disbelievers in the messages and warnings asked for the time and wished to hasten on the event through the messenger to see if he was of truth. Also, one who comes in His name asks nor seeks an worldly reward for their messages and warnings because their reward rest with God. I bare witness that our Lord is one, and how He convey His messages. I will through His leave and permission share with you a true prophecy in which our Lord bestowed upon me.
ReplyDeleteSept. 23, 2013 @11:54pm (date and time of revelation) I am receiving revelations that are being spoken to me through the heart. All glory belongs to God: A great punishment is brewing and many will be consumed to the destruction. Destruction that can and will destroy a nation. So many truths will come to light. The churches will see what they have earned for opening with welcoming arms and embracing the open enemy. They will see how they went astray from the Gospel and the lies they forged. I will fulfil my duties and my covenant with God. I am Abdul Hameed; servant of the Most High; and I will deliver the messages. For I am truthful in every word that I write. It is through the leave of God, I speak these words. If a lie it is I forge then that is for me to suffer for what I earned. If this be forged, let he make in the like of it with truth and wisdom. Surely this will be a time to come and pass as God say so.
When the word brewing came to me, I had a brief vision of a right handed index finger stirring a glass of water in a clock-wise circular motion. I was given no time or day or hour. On November 7, 2013 a portion of the revelation became manifest. A typhoon hit the Philippines. Many were consumed to its destruction. A destruction that could and did ruin a nation. Fearful to make or forge a lie against God, I said I would pray and ask for guidance. Before I could bow before God He reminded me of the vision of the glass of water being stirred. Glory be to God, the Most High who has no partners with Him who sits alone above all and all are His servants.
May peace be upon you, and to all who shall read and believe in their hearts that God is true and has shown them a proof with their own to eyes; that many are unthankful for to Him.
God's timing is not our timing. As we look around us today anyone with any spiritual sense knows we are living in the end of days or times of sorrow. We are taught to look to Isreal for coming end time events. The Shemitah year connected to the Blood Moons and Solar Eclispse, connected to events that have unfolded so far in this Shemitah year, is not a coquendence. Read Rabbi Jonnathen Cahn's "The Mystery of the Shemitah". Also Pastor Hagee's, "Four Blood Moons", and tha late David Wilkerson's, "The Vision and Beyond". All reliable men of God.
ReplyDeleteHe is only a man! I believe his prophecies, he just got the dates wrong. But we see it all happening now. Don't dismiss his dreams! Repent! Jesus is coming back soon..
ReplyDeleteIf Pastor Hagee is reliable then why does he have a 20 million dollar nonprofit that supports Israel without ever trying to bring Jews to Jesus. Not very biblical to believe that the Jews don't need Jesus sacrifice and grace to have eternal life with him.
ReplyDeleteWe are at the very edge or the cusp of the End Times Tribulation periods. What we are seeing daily in the news and on the internet are the players being positioned for a great end time world shaking and major war of great famine, destruction an death. Not because I say this, but through out the Bible prophets of old have revealed as inspired by the Spirit of God those thing which would come to pass. While I have faith in Christ Jesus and trust in God almighty, seeing these things like mounting debts and nation failures, military weapons of great power being placed in Syria by the United States, Russia, Iran, China, England, France and Syria itself can only mean that just a spark is needed to begin the great war of Ezekiel 38. Few can argue that Ezekiel 37 and the return of Israel to the Land is a great sign of the Nearness of philosophized end time events. Next has to be either the Psalm 83 war or the Ezekiel 38 war and these events would not go un-noticed by any who has eyes and ears even those the matter is not completed. Johnathan Cahn gave dire warnings about Blood Moons, Shemitah and Jubilee shakings, we cannot simply dismiss the entire list of warnings as foolishness but should go to the Lord in Prayer and supplications and repent of our sins and ask Christ Jesus to come into our hearts and lives and forgive us as we can do nothing about world events but watch and pray. Sure, you may buy guns and ammo, you may store food aplenty and you may hide silver an gold as you dig a hole in which to hide but these are foolishness is counted upon alone for salvation and life. The only life worth prayer and concern is eternal life in Christ whose return is very near. The list of end time disasters we are experiencing today is far too long to list here but think: World wide debt in the trillions and unpayable. Weapons of great power are in the hands of everyone who wishes to purchase them, sexual perversion gains new height daily and new diseases crop up without warning as drug use continues to grow and murders by people of many beliefs, not just Islam as parents are killing young, youth are killing parents, churches are failing to warn their flock, preachers may no longer preach the Bible less they come under political correctness laws, the lawmakers and our president are famous for lies and promises never fulfilled. That day, the great and gloryious day of the Lord, the blessed coming of the Lord is at hand and should some attempt to share that vision not net complete, we who love the Lord need not condemn them but pray all the more for the lost and the saved. Any to attempt to list the shakings coming upon the world will find that the list is endless and quickly changing daily as we are moving at great speed into the dark days of chaos. The convergence of end time events is overwhelming all, both the lost and the saved and the Satanic lies are confusing many and they are falling away from the Truth to follow the lie that the created being is God and that God the Father and the only begotton Son do not exist.
ReplyDeleteI pray for you all. We all want this to be over. IT is not the fear of death that Christians fear, it is the suffering and pain many go through before dying. Upon death, we are changed from the physical to the spiritual, 1 Corinthians 15:50. I pray for you all as we enter this period of doubt and fear and ask you read and pray over Psalm 23, therein lies word of our hope. In Christ, Calvin
Regarding Jonathan Hansen, it amazes me how people are willing to give him a pass. It's a big deal that he got the dates wrong when they are part of his God-Given prophecy. If you can't trust the dates, why do you think you can trust the rest of it? Would he pass the Deuteronomy standard for a prophet?
ReplyDeleteJudgemental prophesy are and must be give with conditions of repentance..So if the nation repents then judgement will not come upon them...God is not sitting in heave waiting for the day to rain down judgement on us he is also a merciful God..So the Lord shows the prophet the danger to come but if we humble ourselves pray and seek His face then h=He will hear form Heaven forgive our sins and heal our land (turn back the deluge from us...Amen
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